Why is Ohio taking so much longer than Michigan to put abortion on the ballot? Today in Ohio (2022)

CLEVELAND, Ohio -- Ohio reproductive-rights groups are planning to put a constitutional amendment on the ballot to protect abortion rights, but it’s not happening immediately.

We’re talking about what other states are doing to allow abortion on Today in Ohio.

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Editor Chris Quinn hosts our daily half-hour news podcast, with impact editor Leila Atassi, editorial board member Lisa Garvin and content director Laura Johnston.

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Here are the questions we’re answering today:

Do we finally have a movement in Ohio to legalize abortion through the state constitution. Who’s behind it, and why are they feeling confident?

A newish Ohio law gives local governments that ability to quash proposed windfarms, and after the Crawford County commissioners did just that, Apex Clean Energy decided to take advantage of another part of the new law. What is the company doing?

How can a Democrat who holds a seat in the Ohio House right now run to retain the seat as an independent after not throwing her hat in the ring in this week’s primary?

What do we know about the New Jersey lawyer who will make the final decision on whether to extend Deshaun Watson’s punishment for being a predator who sexually assaulted massage therapists?

What traffic nightmare looms for drivers on a much-traveled East Side artery?

There was a time when Pat O’Malley, the former Cuyahoga County recorder and brother of Cuyahoga County Prosecutor Mike O’Malley, was in the news a lot for his public tussles and his arrests. We have not heard much from him in recent years, but Parma Police arrested him again this week. Why?

Who doesn’t love seeing a monarch butterfly, but their populations are shrinking as theyr habitats disappear. What should we all be doing to help these gentle creatures?

What’s the number one donut in Northeast Ohio, according to Yelp reviews?

This still seems like problematic technology, given how long it takes, but NOACA is getting in on electric car charging stations. What’s the plan?

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Chris: [00:00:00] Looks like we might have some movement finally, in the move to legalize abortion through the state constitution. It’s today in Ohio, the news podcast discussion from cleveland.com and the plain dealer. Chris Quinn am here with Lisa Garvin, LAR Johnston and Laila Tossi. And Laura is very excited that it’s a Friday because next week she will be off and free of any responsibilities, including this podcast.

Laura, you ready or. Dreading like another day of work where you have to get stuff done first.

Laura: Oh no, everybody’s been great. I think we’ve had good news this week and, um, no, all the stories just have to come in on time and I’m sure it’ll be FA fantastic.

Chris: Okay. I’ll call you every night just to, to keep you in touch with the newsroom.

I’m just kidding. Let’s begin. Do we finally have movement in Ohio to legalize abortion through the state constitution? Lisa, who’s behind it. Why are they feeling confident, man, it’s taken so long to get there. Michigan already has an [00:01:00] amendment ready to go. ,

Lisa: but we’re not quite there yet in Ohio, but we’re certainly laying the groundwork, the planned parenthood, advocates of Ohio and other reproductive rights groups are planning a constitutional amendment for the Ohio ballot.

But they’re saying in coming years, they’re excited and, you know, Uh, because of this 20% margin of victory in Kansas with where they had abortion on the ballot there. But, um, Lauren Bouve Copeland with the planned parenthood advocates says they’re really their first step is this November. The elections for the Ohio Supreme court are incredibly important to them.

They are endorsing Democrats and all the contests. So they are endorsing Marilyn. Who is opposing, uh, the incumbent pat to wine. And they’re also, uh, endorsing Terry Jameson, who is facing Patrick Fisher. And of course, they’re, you know, advocate advocating for Jennifer Bruner to be the chief justice to replace retiring Maureen O’Connor and, and not Sharon [00:02:00] Kennedy.

And they’re, you know, supporting N Whaley and all Ohio house and Senate Democrats that have called for the amendment. But they do agree that it’s an uphill battle. Already have a veto proof, super majority in Ohio that may stay the same after the November election. We’ll have to see, but the Ohio ballot question, if it comes, would be different than Kansas, because Kansas, the right to abortion was guaranteed by their Supreme court in 2019.

That is not true in Ohio. So the ballot question, if it arrives would be should the right to abortion, be guaranteed in the Ohio cons.

Chris: Well forgetting the abortion issue, pat, the wine and Sharon Kennedy have shown throughout this year that they’re really not fit to serve as justices anymore. So with any luck they won’t be there.

The what they’ve done with gerrymandering and pat, the wine’s huge conflicts of interest. It’s forget whether they’ll rule on abortion. They’re just not making good rulings. The, the idea that. They’re focused [00:03:00] on the election instead of getting this on the ballot will though delay the protections for women in Ohio.

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So that means there there’s going to be a longer period here where women can’t get abortions without going out of state. I’m I’m just surprised given the speed that they’d used in Michigan to get the signatures for the amendment to get it going, that we haven’t done the same thing. Here are. Lethargic in Ohio.

Lisa: I honestly don’t know. It’s kind of puzzling to me as well. And we had our democratic candidates for governor and us Senate kind of whiff on, you know, what specific abortion protections they would lobby for. So that’s kind of interesting as well. I, I honestly don’t know, obviously it’s not gonna make this November ballot.

So the, the next time a constitutional men would come up would be 20, 24.

Chris: Is that right? That only can be in a general election year. It can’t be,

Lisa: I, I honestly, I don’t know. I, I

Chris: honestly don’t. I thought it could. I, I thought, well, well, [00:04:00] we’ll, we’ll, we’ll check. We’ll find out. The Republicans did wake up on Wednesday in some fear that Kansas vote was so powerful that Republicans now know this will be an issue.

Persuades voters to vote one way or the other. And so elections that seemed guaranteed red aren’t guaranteed red. The, the power, I mean, let’s face it. Kansas is a red state, but it was overwhelming, uh, to say, no, there is a right to abortion. So all of these Republicans that have stood on abortion is an issue are in trouble and we’ll have to see what happens.

It’s yeah. There’s a

Lisa: glimmer of hope for

Chris: Democrat. Yeah, I think there’s more than a glimmer. I do think the idea of, of Democrats pushing the fringiest infringe right. Candidates to, so that they would oppose them in November is dangerous. Like what happened in Arizona with the crazy woman that denies the election?

That’s now the Republican. Candidate if she wins [00:05:00] because the, of the work that Democrats did to get her, and as a candidate, Arizona’s gonna be ruled by somebody who’s kind of alone and that’s happened in other states. It’s a very risky proposition, uh, that , we’ll have to see how people turn out in November.

It’s today in Ohio. A newish Ohio law gives local governments the ability to quash proposed wind farms. And after the Crawford county commissioners did just that apex clean energy decided to take advantage of another part of the new law. Laura, what is the company doing and credit to Pete craft? Since he became our environmental reporter, he has just come up with a series of gem.

Yeah,

Laura: this is fascinating. So they are going straight to the voters. And that’s the first time that any company is doing that for wind farm in Ohio, because this is a relatively new law. So this is the result of Senate. 52, it was passed last summer and obviously gave the authorities the right to regulate it in their area rather than leaving their fate to the Ohio par power citing board.

[00:06:00] So Crawford county in may, they created this wind farm exclusion zone to prevent apex clean energy from this 300 megawatt honey Creek wind project. That’s north of the county, state of the Cyrus. And these are massively tall. Wind turbines taller than the statue of Liberty. And the idea is that they can build fewer of them and get more wind because they’re higher.

So apex thinks that they have enough valid signatures for the question to be put on the November 8th ballot, that they’re a Virginia based company. And then they would be able to submit straight to the citing board if the voters approve it. And the citing board still has to prove all, uh, utility scale power projects.

Chris: Yeah. I like what some of the people in this story said that this really should go to the people, no matter what mm-hmm that this shouldn’t be a decision made by commissioners, but the only. You can put it before the people is if the government creates the exclusion zone, like the government could not say, you know what, let [00:07:00] let’s let the people decide.

Maybe we should have this. They can’t. Right. So they have to create the exclusion zone and then leave it up to the energy company to get the signatures, which some is a referendum in and of itself. If they can’t get the signatures clearly there’s no.

Laura: Correct. And, and I think, although they did say that, right, they said, I don’t wanna be responsible for making this decision.

But they also said there was about a thousand people at the hearing to create the exclusion zone. And 80% of them were for the exclusion zone. And speakers were about two to one in favor of it. So I don’t know if they were just in favor of the idea of the vote or they really don’t want wind turbines because obviously these go up in rural areas, you have to have a lot of land to be.

Place them. And we’ve gotten a lot of pushback from people. Um, not just the ones on the lake gear, which obviously that had a huge amount of controversy and opposition, but, you know, really, so yeah, there there’s huge

Chris: difference. The lake, you had the migratory birds and you [00:08:00] also had the deterioration and all of the other factors.

Laura: I completely agree, but if people are still against it,

Chris: But why? I, I it’s almost like it’s misinformation. I don’t understand. I didn’t see anything in the story where somebody articulated a clear reason to not like them. I’ve

Laura: heard, I’ve heard people talk about noise, even though, like, I haven’t heard that, you know, specifically when driving past turbines, some people don’t, they think it’s site pollution.

They just don’t wanna see it on the horizon. Some people, you know, there are crazy conspiracy theories. I don’t exactly know. I just, where are cottages in Canada? There are a whole lot of wind turbines and there are an awful lot of farmers that have signs, you know, with a wind turbine and a red circle with a line through it.

Chris: The, I, you wonder if it’s other forms of energy companies that are trying to stomp this out because they don’t want the competition from. Maybe the

Laura: spreading misinformation there that’s entirely possible. [00:09:00] Also. It could just be that people don’t like anything new in their backyards.

Chris: Yeah, there was a comparison in the story to when electrification first came to the country and they started putting up utility poles and wires.

People were very much against it cuz they thought it was ugly. Uh, I did wonder it is ugly. there was, there was somebody in the story that said I’m not listening to either side. I did my own research. I, I know what I know. But he didn’t really say what he, what he knew.

Laura: that’s his, he, he has a secretive vote.

It’s why the ballot box is, is private. Yeah. I

Chris: just wonder where he did his research. I hope it was not on Facebook rabbit holes. Good story. By Pete cross it’s on cleveland.com and you are listening to today in Ohio. How can a Democrat who holds a seat in the Ohio house right now, run to retain the seat as an independent, after not throwing her hat in the ring.

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And this week’s primary Leila. This story throws up into the [00:10:00] air, our entire partisan election system.

Leila: Yes, it does state representative Shayla Davis. She’s a Garfield Heights Democrat. She’s been serving as a placeholder since February in the house. She was appointed to fill vacancy that was created when former state rep Stephanie House was elected to Cleveland city.

Council Davis didn’t file to run for this week’s primary election before a filing deadline in may. She said in an interview that she didn’t plan to run, but she said she changed her mind in early June when the Ohio house Republicans passed that bill that would require genital inspections for any girl competing in sports whose gender identity was challenged.

And so she decided to pull petitions on June 10th and filed her paperwork with the Kaga county board of elections this week to run for Ohio’s 18th house district. There was a wrinkle here because that’s the seat that Sandra Williams was vacating after her resignation to take a lobbying job. And Williams’ resignation left [00:11:00] Darnell brewer, the social services worker who unsuccessfully applied for the seat that Davis was appointed to.

He is the only name on the democratic primary ballot. And of course, Davis Shala Davis. It was too late for her to jump onto that ballot. So his only challenger at this point would be Republican Shera Taylor, and it’s an overwhelmingly democratic district. So he is going to win unless he has some kind of competition.

So Davis decided when she pulled her petitions that she’s going to try to run as a political independent. But she has quite a hurdle ahead of her because the county elections board won’t formally certify independent candidates until it gets together later this month ahead of an August 28th deadline in between now.

And then someone could file a protest to her candidacy, challenging whether she really is a political independent, given her current status as a democratic elected official, there’s quite a bit of evidence that points to the fact that she. A Democrat. [00:12:00] I mean, her website, I think still says

Chris: she’s a Democrat.

Yeah. I mean, she is a Democrat. There’s no doubt about the fact she’s a Democrat. Now, maybe the day she leaves office, she can say I’m no longer aligned, but she wants to run an election as an independent while she’s a sitting Democrat in the house. And I get that, that Ohio law injured to by setting.

Fascinating. Interesting explanation of this and Ohio law is a little bit vague, so it could happen, but, but doesn’t this argue, we should just get rid of the whole party primary system and have, yeah, of course it, does it be nonpartisan, let everybody run. And would that make us less divided if we just had people run for office based on their, their beliefs?

Leila: Yeah, I think about that all the time. I mean, It would, it would, but I mean, we still would divide. We, we would, we would divide ourselves on our value system and it would be clear who’s who very, very quickly, wouldn’t it

Chris: be? Nice. Divide ourselves

Laura: on anything. Wouldn’t it be nice if it was a parliamentary system where [00:13:00] you had to have compromise between parties cuz there’s more than two of them and you never have a super majority.

I, that would be nice. So

Chris: says the Canadian native oh my gosh. let’s get rid of our government and go Canada style. That’s. Yeah, I, I feel for her because she’s well, meaning she she’s enjoying the life of a legislator. Although a Democrat in the Ohio house is like completely powerless. But, but I don’t know.

I think her chance was to run for the seed as a Democrat, which she chose not to do you, you have one or the other either you can’t let her and you maintain the primary system or you do letter and you say, okay, this whole thing. Pretty silly it’s today in Ohio. What do we know about the New Jersey lawyer who will make the final decision before courts do on whether to extend Deshaun Watson’s punishment for being a predator who sexually assaulted massage therapist?

Lisa, Mary Kay. Kat had an interesting, uh, subtext last night. She’s saying, [00:14:00] you know, the two sides ought to get together. Agree on 10 games. Agree to some fine and just end this now. Cuz Terry Pluto has laid. A a process where this will go on forever and ever, and ever. The next step is the New Jersey lawyer.

Who is he?

Lisa: His name is Peter C. Harvey. He is a former federal prosecutor and a former, uh, attorney general for the state of New Jersey. He’s currently a partner at the New York based law firm of Patterson and Belknap. Um, in an NFL statement released yesterday, they say that Harvey has expertise in domestic violence and sexual assault cases.

He has also been commissioner Roger Goodell’s designee in other arbitration cases. So he obviously has experience. He will address whether the discipl. Plan from Sue L Robinson should be changed to include a longer suspension, an appropriate, fine. There was no fine levied at all by Robinson and an evaluation in treatment determined by medical experts of Watson’s mental state.

Um, but under the [00:15:00] collective bargaining agreement, Harvey’s ruling will be final in binding, but as we know, the NFL player’s association is already poised to file a lawsuit. If he

Chris: is. As good a lawyer as he appears to be, as we’ve discussed earlier, the judge’s ruling on this was pretty ironclad. The 16 pages laid out in very clear detail, why she was bound by NFL precedent to give him the punishment she gave him.

So if this guy’s that good, wouldn’t you think that he would have to go along with it? I mean, there’s no holes in what, in her argument she gave this the full review.

Lisa: I, I think this is gonna be very interesting. And I think that his ruling might surprise a lot of people. So, but it, I think the player’s association was glad that it wasn’t gonna be Roger Goodell because he could have not, you know, assigned Mr.

Harvey. He could have done it himself. And the NFL player’s Associa should, did not want that. But, you know, as Robinson stated in her report, [00:16:00] she said, you know, doing. Changing this, after the fact changing the rules has a ripple effect across the entire, you know, football league. And she was worried about that.

Chris: Yeah. I, Mary Kay Cabot who’s our chief Browns writer said this was a very smart move by Roger Goodell because this lawyer does understand this. He understands it. You know, he crosses every tee dots, every eye. He, he is the right person to weigh this and come out with a judgment. But I, but I think you’re right.

I think a lot of people might be surprised. You could always throw in a fine, I mean, there was not a whole lot in the ruling that came out that explained why there wasn’t a big fine, but I, to, to add games, I. Would compromise the integrity of the discipline process.

Lisa: And as people have pointed out, you know, that, that, you know, it was a woman who made this judgment that, you know, the disciplinary for Sue L Robinson.

So we’re questioning a woman’s judgment. I mean, some people have brought that up. She could

Chris: have [00:17:00] also ordered him into much more serious therapy. So maybe, maybe that’s the way this goes. Uh, this will happen, I think, fairly quickly, but the lawsuits, if it changes dramatically, could. For a long, long time it’s today in Ohio, what traffic nightmare looms for drivers on a much traveled east side artery.

Laura, you have abandoned the east side to the west side. You won’t have to drive on this much, but a lot of people will and Ooh, it’s going to be bad.

Laura: Yeah. I used to drive Warrensville center road all the time. So this is Warrensville center talking about a two year project over the rapid train tracks at shaker Boulevard.

And that is already a congested area. So you’re gonna be replacing the bridge deck, the roadway, the drainage, and doing traffic signal improvements, installing a shared youth path across, across the northbound structure. So it’ll be like a biking and walking path, and this is gonna start next spring. But.

Man that is, that does not, they’re going to maintain traffic. It’s never gonna [00:18:00] be closed completely. it’ll be, but we’re talking still a four lane road with turn lanes. That’s gonna go to one lane in every direction. And you know, that goes between four 80 and all the way up to. Um, you know, to Euclid and everything that is not a, a fun road that you’re gonna be stuck in traffic on.

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Chris: No, it’ll be, it’ll be standstill for, for miles and miles. The, the thing that’s odd is they’re asking for public input when, but when you read the story, it’s. The plan’s done. What are they looking for? Input on. They want people to say, please don’t do it. I wanna be able to

Laura: drive. I, I don’t know what they’re going to be.

I mean, maybe something about, maybe they’re gonna ask about the landscaping. I don’t know. I mean, I feel like that’s pretty far down the road. This is stuff they need to do. And obviously everybody, nobody wants a pothole horrible road to drive on. It’s just. Pain of getting to that process. And you know, if there’s only so many roads, you can take east west, you know, or north south in on the east side and they’re big arteries, [00:19:00] right?

So is this gonna change traffic patterns? Everybody’s gonna just be driving Cedar because no one wants to drive down to shaker Boulevard. I mean, maybe.

Chris: Yeah, it, it, it, it will be messy for east siders when they were doing the intersection of chagrin and Warrensville center road a few years back, it, it was extremely messy.

This will be not fun next year for people on the east side it’s today in Ohio. There was a time when pat O’Malley the former Cuyahoga county or quarter and brother of Cuyahoga county prosecutor, Michael O’Malley was in the news a lot for his public tussles and being arrested. We haven’t heard from him much in the past 15, 16 years, but Parma police have just arrested him again.

Layla, what’s this. So

Leila: back in April Parma, police responded to a mental health crisis incident at, at his home. And they say that he assaulted a police officer during that incident. So on Thursday, he pleaded not guilty to that [00:20:00] charge. O’Malley is charged with felonious assault of a peace officer assault of a peace, uh, assault of a peace officer obstructing official business and resisting arrest, uh, in COGA county, common police court there wasn.

A criminal case listed under O’Malley’s name in Parma municipal court’s online docket search on Thursday. So it’s unclear whether he was booked into jail or released without charges after that, uh, after the initial incident. So there’s a, there’s still some question marks we have around this case, and it’s hard to get sources to talk about this O’Malley is of course the brother of Kaga county prosecutor, Michael Malley.

So Michael Malley has recused himself from the case Erie county prosecutor. Kevin Baxter’s office is gonna handle the prosecution here.

Chris: Yeah. And it looks like from our reporting that this started with a call about mental health duress mm-hmm . And we generally don’t write about that kind of thing, but because of.

Pat O’Malley’s longtime background as a public figure because [00:21:00] he’s the brother of the county prosecutor for transparency and accountability. We pretty much have to write that story. Mm-hmm I mean, the, the, the Parma police did not take him to a mental health ward. They charged him with a serious crime against a police officer.

And in our watchdog world, we have to make sure that this case progresses as it would for anybody else. Uh, which is why. Have a story about it on our website.

Leila: Yeah, that’s right. I mean, and, and you’re right. He does have, he has a history. I mean, pat, pat O’Malley was charged with misdemeanor domestic violence in 2004, after his, his wife at the time accused him of shover into a doorway a month after she filed for a divorce, those charges were dismissed after the prosecutor said, pat O’Malley had passed a lie detector test.

And then after he was. He was reelected in 2004 to his last termin in office. He was sentenced to 15 months in federal prison after pleading guilty in 2008 to an obscenity charge. And that came from material that FBI [00:22:00] agents, uh, who, uh, were investigating an unrelated matter that he was never charged for.

They found on two personal computers that were seized from him, some, some kind of material. So, um, so he. He has stuff, uh, in his past that, that make this a story today, um, uh, you know, right,

Chris: right. Which is, which is why we’re, we’re talking about it and covering it. Right.

Leila: But yeah, you’re right. We are sensitive to, to matters of, of mental CRI mental health crises.

And so we, we do proceed carefully. On on the, on stories of that

Chris: nature. Okay. You’re listening to today in Ohio, who doesn’t love seeing a Monarch butterfly, but their populations are shrinking as their habitats disappear. What should we all be doing? Lisa to help these gentle creatures thrive.

Lisa: Well, in a nutshell, we should be planting more native species and we should be planting lots and lots of milkweed because that’s [00:23:00] the only food that Monarch caterpillars eat.

Susan Brownstein, the gardening editor for plain dealer in cleveland.com got three caterpillars from a Facebook group called the Monarch maniacs of Ohio. That has 5,000 members. What they do is they rescue and nurture Monarch eggs and. Experts though say that these kind of efforts alone will not reverse the decline of the Monarch population and may even do more harm than good.

But honestly, if somebody gave me some Monarch caterpillars to, you know, adopt, I would absolutely do it, but. Brownstein says that this program educates urban and suburban gardeners on how to make differences in their little ecosystems to help the species survive. As I said before, looking up native plants, like butterfly weed and other things that attract adult butterflies, but milk weed is really important here.

It’s not pretty, it’s kind of a weed. It’s very hard to grow from seed, but it. Central food supply. So they’re urging [00:24:00] people to plant it and consider other, you know, having like a little meadow area that’s kind of wild in their yard. Um, shaker lakes, nature center is holding a milkweed sale to raise funds and has information on their website about growing milkweed.

I will tell you this down at Euclid beach, they have planted a lot of native milkweed and Joe high weed. And in September. Full of Monarch butterflies. Wow. That are crossing the lake as they migrate south, usually around late August, early September, but they have a huge milkweed meadow there off of Euclid beach that really attracts

Chris: them.

Well, maybe as they plan what to do with the park, that’s replacing horseshoe lake, they could set aside a big part of it just for milkweed so that you could help the butterflies thrive. Now you’re, you’re a gardener. Do you have milkweed in your yard or do the deer eat it?

Lisa: I, I, I have butterfly weed in the deer keep eat, which would be for adults, but I, I took some milkweed pods from Euclid beach last year and I couldn’t get them to [00:25:00] germinate.

Chris: Oh, wow. Yeah, it’s a, it’s an interesting idea. But you say that it’s ugly. It’s not pretty. Yeah. It’s

Lisa: not a pretty it’s weedy. It looks like a weed. It’s very tall. I mean, it has nice flowers, but it is

Chris: weed. Yeah. I would look right at home in any of my guards. you’re listening to today in Ohio. I’m gonna go outta order.

This still seems like problematic technology given how long it takes, but NOA is getting in on the electric. Car charging stations, Leila. It still takes hours to get this done, but what’s NOAC’s plan. Well,

Leila: reporter Pete cross tells us that, uh, no ACA plans to spend 4.14 million to create 47 public charging stations for electric vehicles across greater Cleveland.

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They’re gonna be in 40 communities, mostly in COGA county, Lorraine. Meina lake and GI and we should see them by 2023. The charging stations will be either level two. Those offer two to four ports with a full charge time of four to six hours or level three DC, fast [00:26:00] chargers. Those are one to four ports that provide a full charge in 30 to 60 minutes.

Currently, there are fewer than a hundred of these charging stations that are publicly accessible in the five county region of, you know, NOAA’s five county region and. But they’re saying that by 2050 NOAA’s region will have 144,000 electric vehicles that will need more than 2000 public charging stations to adequately meet the demand that I don’t know, I guess.

So by 2050,

Chris: you’re you are, you’re a mom with three kids. You are, uh, very, I’m not waiting for that. You’re a busy editor. Do you have four, six hours every time you

Laura: wanna, do you hear that it was 30 to 60 minutes that got so much better than I thought it was gonna be? No, it says four to six hours is going, no, there’s a couple ports that are 30, 60 minutes.

Lisa: Yeah. But you only get 60 to 80. [00:27:00] From that fast charge. Yeah. I think you

Laura: only get sick, full charge. Well, obviously we all need to know more about how to charge electric batteries, but Hey, we talked about this before with the idea about the, you know, the truck stops doing this. Maybe if they put like a indoor play space.

At it in the middle of winter, I would totally go.

Chris: You are in action, like a spinning top, never, ever coming to rest. Where in your work week in your daily life,

Laura: put them at a hockey rink. They have one at winter Hurst. I’m not kidding. They do. They have one at winter Hurst in Lakewood. They have two spots right there.

So if you put ‘em at places like, or, you know, like a city hall complex where there’s a rec center and a, you know, there’s a court and city hall. Whatever then it, then I would go there. That would be great. If they

Leila: offer free childcare at these charging stations I would do

Chris: it. Okay. Where I still I’m tripping over this whole concept.

We’ll move on it’s today in Ohio. Okay. Laura, I’ve been off most of this week, [00:28:00] counting on you to apply me with stories. And we came up with one short for the week. So you get to talk about this one. What’s the number one donut in Northeast, Ohio, according to Yelp

Laura: reviews. Okay. It’s not the newsiest story we published this week, but it is one of the most popular with our readers.

Mm-hmm so I’m just gonna say that, cuz you know, Northeast, Ohio, we love donuts and I would not have guessed this list because I feel like I knew the regulars like Jack Frost and Becker’s and um, in Rocky river, I really like big mouth donut company, but the number one donut, according to. Is the vegan donut company.

And I would’ve been like, no, I don’t need a vegan donut. But the comments that this said that the, the bakers have proven their donuts are even better than traditional flour and milk S the flavors are strong, but not overbearing. And the sweetness is just, right. So people love this vegan donut company in Cleveland, and this is a whole list of businesses in, it goes from Cuyahoga [00:29:00] Giah lake, Lorraine, Meina Portage and summit county.

Big area. Um, Terrapin bikey finished second in Cleveland and then Jack Frost, brunettes Goldies, and Lindhurst, Spud, nuts and Bea. But those first two, I, those were new to

Chris: me. So there’s no milk, no eggs in the vegan donut company

Laura: they’re using. Yeah, apparently. So now I need to know if like you can have gluten free donuts that are just as good

Leila: because, you know, I, I believe the vegan is probably, uh, delicious yesterday.

I had a vegan chocolate chip cookie at a coffee shop and it was exquisite. And I really was like, this is one of the best cookies I’ve ever had. Really? Yes. So I’m gotta try this donut.

Chris: Okay, well, maybe the next time we have some special event in the office. We can get the, because we

Laura: had had Becker’s last week and people were like, oh, I really like Becker’s.

They were, they were pleased with my selection. So I felt pretty proud of myself. okay.

Lisa: And I live close to Goldies. I’m a [00:30:00] half mile from Goldies. So if I want a Goldies donut, I’m gonna walk, but they, if you don’t get there by 11 O’. It’s empty. So that’s how popular it

Chris: is. I literally have not had a donut in 21 years since I got diagnosed.

You can’t silly. I,

Laura: you, you to find a gluten free donut.

Chris: Well,

Laura: but it it’s just no way also. You don’t eat anything that’s bad for you. No, that’s not

Leila: true. That’s not true at all. We’ll bring you a yogurt.

Chris: okay. Moving on it’s today in Ohio. That does it for the week of news. All right. Have a good time off next week.

Thanks Lisa. Thanks Layla. Thanks to everybody who listens to the podcast.

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